Anyone experienced power interruptions in the last few days?

> Like, when the lights go off and then back on and all the divices go
> crazy?
>

Re-calculated maintenance fee reduction?

There was a meeting last night (Dec 14, 2010) to re-calculate the
proposed condo fee reduction (initially 22% ).
Anyone on line who attended and who knows what the outcome was?

Again about Nancy ... (reposting of a recent comment as a new topic)

I see by the notice that the board has had a meeting but have not said anything about Nancy's position on the board. NANCY is there illegally and a vote should have taken place at the AGM for her position. The board knows this and should call an election in January for her position at the latest. Now DAN NANCY AND BOB can stop any investigation into their involvement in this and any others that might have been involved. The Lawyer should have known that this was illegal he has been at least three of our AGEs or did they tell him. Does he not look after our legal affairs? Should he have not seen this and corrected it before it was sent out? Management sent out the notice they should have known! Or did only the board Management know that they were breaking the law and seemingly planned to do this and hope no one would notice? We are now in the position of having a board that may not be able to function properly because Dan, Bob and Nancy openly broken the law and can now stop any investigation into their actions because they can and do still control the board. Even if Nancy leaves there are only four members and DAN and Bob can prevent any investigation into their actions. This is unacceptable and they should be taken to court and made to pay all costs and be charged under the Condo Act. THEY will have to pay all legal costs and could be fined. Under the Law they have KNOWINGLY broken the law will have to pay for their own legal fees and the condo's!
Can you trust these three to continue to look after our affairs if they openly break the Law?
It is time to stop this and take this to a higher level!
We should have an election for NANCY'S position in January at the latest so they cannot cover up anything else that might possibly have been done that may seem to have been done illegally. We would hope this is the only case.
An open investigation should and must be held into their actions. Ask yourself this ...if they OPENLY break the law and tell you so at an AGM what else are they doing.

If someone can get this Translated it should be distributed to ALL people so we ALL know what they have done.

Notices posted in the elevator on Nov 30,2010

 

Repost this under Sub metering.

Good to know :

 

Repost this under Sub metering.

Before you start to pay your hydro bill please check your Canet heater in your living or dining room to make sure it is working properly. If it is VERY HOT it could have a problem and needs to be fixed or replaced . If it is not working correctly and is over heating this could cost you a great deal of money on your hydro bill.
You SHOULD EMAIL THE OFFICE AND GO TO THE OFFICE AND FILL OUT A FORM AND GET A COPY OF THIS TO SHOW YOU HAVE REPORTED IT.
This will show that you have reported incase you have problems in the future.

Nancy, etc.... (reposting as separate topic)

--- This was posted as a commnet first ; for related comments see the comment bellow for" Hall painting ....." ---


First let me tell you when the time comes for Nancy to be legally voted onto the board I will be voting for her. Why they have insisted on doing what they are by attempting to keep her on the board when they know it is against the law,but I am willing to forgive them for attempting it.
I do not know how long you have lived here but if you remember Catherine's board (on which Dan sat ) the ACT was not followed and was broken many times. This board esp. the three remaining sitting board members know whay went on Bob resigned from that board.

We wanted a safe, HONEST board at the previous AGM that is what we voted for.

What many people do not realize that if Nancy continues to sit on this board with out being voted there we the owners could suffer from this. Should anyone take this to court over their actions the court could appoint an administrator to look after our affairs and we would have very little to say about it, and a board could be appointed to sit and have very little to say of what goes on here until the courts think we can manage our own affairs.
They could look into our finances and say we do not have enough money in our reserve fund and either raise our maint. fees our call for a special assesment to top them up. This has happened in other places we do not need that here.
No one wants this. So in the face of this why would they insist in knowingly break the law and possibly cause this to happen? Did they hope no one would say anything?
We have seen many improvements since this board was installed in 2009. Why would we want to throw this away because they are breaking the law are they affraid of something ?
So my answer is not to remove Nancy from the board because she legally is not on the board but to follow the ACT as it should be and not take a step backward. If Nancy really wants to help this place, as a former board member she should run for the position again,and the new board must call for a vote and I am sure the people after listening to Seamus" rambling, shouting and interupting the meeting, not abiding by the rules, would not give anyone he would promote their vote. I have faith in the people of our community not to allow another group of people such as we had before in Catherine and her group try and dominate this place as they once did!
If you believe in following the Condo Act and not want it to be broken, have honest people looking after our affairs why would you want someone to illegally stay on the board?
If they insisted on illegally staying what would that tell you about them and yourself for that matter?
Have a vote and put her back on the board legally.

Hall painting at 20 Moonstone....

It started a couple days before the AGM but it looks like they don't
do anything anymore.... (this is for the ground floor).
Anybody seen those folks working in some other building(s)???

To avoid SPAM that started to accumulate to this blog...

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THERE IS NO IGNORANCE OF THE LAW THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD

IS THIS WHAT YOU MEANT BY "Start A NEW BLOG" ???? 

If yes, here it is, even if your message doesn't make to much sense to me.

I would edit it but I don't know what to leave and what to remove.

It would also be better not to use only CAPITAL letters in your text - it makes it very hard to understand - use CAPITALS only when you want to put emphasis on something.

To start a new "blog" just send an email message with your text to the email address ycc244.toronto@blogger.com - it will be posted immediately. You can try and be assured nothing wrong would happen and NOBODY would know WHO sent the message.

It is 100% anonymous , of course unless you SIGN your message WITHIN the text you are sending.

Here is (in RED) the text you wanted to appear in a new topic (unedited) :

 

WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE START A NEW BLOG AND HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE REGISTER AT THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS THIS IS EXTERMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY ARE HIDING BEHIND THE LAW BECAUSE THE CORP. LAWYER DID NOT AND WOULD NOT TELL THEM THAT THEY WERE BREAKING THE LAW. THEY ARE HIDING BEHIND BEHIND THIS BECAUSE OUR LAWYER DID NOT TELL THEM THAT THEY WERE BREAKING THE LAW. THEY ARE SITTING LAUGHING AT YOU BECAUSE OF THIS... A COLLECTION AND BANK ACCOUNT SHOULD BE OPENED AND A COMMITTE SHOULD BE FORMED TO PROTECT US OUR LAWYER AND SOME MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD ARE NOT DOING THIS

info@ontariocondominiumownersassociation.com
PLEASE REGISTER AT THIS SITE IT IS ONE FOR ALL CONDO OWNERS IN ONTARIO NO COST ..JUST A SHORT FORM ... AND THAT IS ALL..
THESE PEOPLE CLAIMING NOT TO KNOW THE LAW AND ARE HIDING BEHIND THIS EVEN AFTER THE PORTION OF THE ACT WAS SENT TO ALL PEOPLE ON THE BOARD INCLUDING MANAGEMENT AND THE LAWYER..

tHIS IS WHAT WE HAVE AGAIN PEOPLE WHO ARE IGNORING THE LAW AND FLONTING IT IN OUR FACES BY CONTINUEINE TO IGNORE IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO START A NEW BLOG WOULD SOMEONE START ONE AND COPY AND PASTE THIS TO IT THE BLOG COULD BE...THERE IS NO IGNORANCE OF THE LAW THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD.

THANK YOU PLEASE HELP TAKE BACK OUR COMMUNITY FROM UNSCRUPULOUS PEOPLE AND HAVE THE ILLEAGLE PERSON REMOVED AND A VOTE TAKE PLACE THEY CAN RUN AGAIN IF SHE IS NOT AFRAID TO FACE THE COMMUNITY WHY ARE THEY HIDING BEHIND IGNORANCE OF THE LAW. THEY AHD THE OLD BOARD ,DAN BOB AND NANCY KNOW THE LAW..

THANKING YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOU CONCERNS OF OUR COMMUNITY ...PLEASE TAKE IT BACK...-

So whats next for ycc244

Hi all

So whats next on the agenda?

Nancy on the new board?

Sub-metering and how much will be reduced from our condo fees?

The opening up of the board to us all, maybe a monthly newsletter

Major repairs and schedule for the repairs to all buildings of the corporation?

The low value of our property per square foot. Justin mentioned $150 I think for this property.

The winners were:

The 3 newly elected Board members are:

 

Seamus

Mona

Dan

 

They will join:

 

Slobodan (Bob)-- president of the former Board , continuing with the new board

Nancy -- (disputed) member of the former board , continuing with the new board

Questions to Catherine and Dan Hu at our AGM (reposting this as a new topic)

-- Someone tried hard to post this as a comment to other topics to draw attention to it ; I thought it would be good to have it as a separate topic, to show on the first page for everybody; also when you want to post something new read at the top of the blog how to do it (right above "Enjoy!": "To post a new message on this blog as a new topic send an email with your message to: ycc244.toronto@blogger.com " --- here it is: ---

 

Questions to Catherine and Dan Hu at our AGM
This is the Condo Act Section--- 32
Conduct of business
32. (1) Subject to subsection 42 (5), the board of a corporation shall not transact any business of the corporation except at a meeting of directors at which a quorum of the board is present. 1998, c. 19, s. 32 (1).
Quorum
(2) A quorum for the transaction of business is a majority of the members of the board. 1998, c.. 19, s. 32 (2).

For our YCC244 the board member of 5 ,the majority must be 3+. That means any transactions done by only 2 board members is illegal. Even if there were 3 Board members if the 3 rd one was appointed by the left 2 Board members.
So we must ask Catherine and Dan Hu and verify :
1. How many Board members were there on the Board when you signed the contract with the contractor NAN BEI for the swimming pool?

2. How many Board members were there on the Board when you signed the contract with NAN BEI for the stucco project of Building A & B?

3. Why did you sign such big projects with the same contractor NAN BEI and let NAN BEI to sub-contract the stucco project some one else?

4. Was it worth $100,000+ to do the swimming pool? Was it worth using out our Reserve Fund before you step down to do the stucco?
5. Did you guys get money from NAN BEI and other of your contractors, if yes how much? How much per unit owner?
6. Do you want to continue doing crazy things like that by running the Board again?

Catherine & Dan

Why would someone as disliked as Dan Hu and Catherine Zhong still be willing to run for board?

What makes them want and hope they get re-elected?

Are there owners in our condo that just vote blindly?

Every year these two folks bring up a lot of controversy upon them and they still get elected?

Ignorance?

Conspiracy?

Forgery?

All of the above?

Or, the attendance to this discussions is insignificant compared to the mass of voters?

Can anyone make a recap of the hottest topics so far, and post it as a new blog entry?

It's kind of cumbersome now to go through all the postings and
comments, unless you are new to the blog and want to catch-up with
the discussions so far.
From what I can see the topic on the list of resumees - "YCC 244
owners who sent resumes for nomination to the board of directors" - (
from Thursday, November 4, Posted at 10:19 AM ---- with 22 comments )
is the most discussed of all but there are some other topiscs that
attracted many comments as well.

Something has to be done immediately!  Our maintenance fee is so high, and our complex looks terrible, dirty, and unmaintained. With a more organized approach to all projects, I think that the Operating Expenses of this property can be slashed by at least 20%.  Most of the projects are started and not finished properly, any work that I have seen done to our property is unorganized, unscheduled and very poorly done. These are some of the most important issues that the Board of Directors never did: 1.     90% of the time the owners of YCC244 are not informed about the major projects planned to be done for YCC244, WHY? 2.     Painting the walls – Why the owner never been informed? WHY was painted first draft and not clean the mess left behind - dirty hallways must remain until the project ends?   3.     Why we were not informed that the hitters will be changed and when??? In 20 Moonstone, the hitters were changed only at the second floor - why we are not informed when the hitters will change in all units?   4.     Grass carpet put on one side of 15 and 25 Pebble Byway - owner never been informed - projects done chaotic – WHY the carpet grass was not done for the entire the complex? 5.     Is true that projects, which cost less than a certain amount of money, can be put into action without the approval of the Board of Directors?  Is this the reason – why the project are done partial and in small portions?   In addition, the entire complex is a mess – very dirty and not properly maintained  The garbage bins are kept in plain sight at the front of 20 Moonstone Byway, which makes the property look dirty and uninviting, everyone can smell the garbage as soon as you walk up the stairs! At night, you can see rats running across the driveway between the buildings!    The walls around the elevator in the garage as well as the garbage deposit rooms are painted a terrible green and pink colour!    The garage always has a terrible smell to it and people keep all kinds of furniture, tires, boxes, etc. in their parking spots. This should be prohibited and enforced.   Although the grass is cut by the property management, weeds are never taken out   As soon as you walk or drive into 10 and 20 Moonstone Byway you can see everyone's patios full of garbage, benches, old tables, weeds, etc. and you can see inside of every unit!  This is very unsafe.  If the ever – green trees will be plated all around the complex - in front and in the back of all units  - these would improve a lot the aspect of YCC244 and every owner can enjoy their privacy.

Do you remeber 2003?

This is just a memory refresher of how Steve W & comp. were calculating the CEA hydro reduction when they were attempting to implement sub-metering at that time (2003-ish ). Well, they were supposed to meter the water as well at that point. I don't think the ratios changed very much in time as it pertains to hydro. What I find interesting is that they were considering the CEA usage as being 33% from the entire hydro amount as oposed  to what we are told now (16%). Did YCC244 managed to reduce CEA hydro consumption by 50% while increasing significantly the overal units' consumption?

Everyone can calculate the ratio for the hydro/electricity consumption for 2007, 2008, 2009– all the numbers were pulled from the Financial Statements of YCC244. YEAR 2009 2008 2007 Total Common expenses 1,177,214 Electricity 584,463 558,522 588.522 percentage of hydro 50% 49.47% 588,522 According with these ratios the MAINTENANCE MUST BE REDUCED BY - 40%, the difference of 10% will cover the common elements. In addition, please have a look of all Operating and administrative expenses: Electrical and lighting 2009=$ 7,013; 2008=$ 13,136 in top of electricity Cleaning Contract 2009 = $ 54,084; 2008=$ 40,312 Cleaning Supplies 2009= $ 3,167 ; 2008 = $ 5,770 Telephone and communication 2009=$7,998 2008=$ 7,378 Maybe the board can explain about these high expenses 182

We pay $40/month for the recreation centre ??? ? Unit 182, come on !!!!

Unit 182, can you PROVE how you came up with this number ($40/month for the recreation centre )???

It is HUUUUUUGE if it's real.

I don't beleive it's real, unless you can prove this!!!!

I will NEVER give my vote to these two persons Dan Hu and Catherine Zhong – to be part of the new board of directors

YYC244

Hi, Many discussions about the election of the new board of directors. Before any owner makes a decision regarding their vote, please take in consideration what the board did to our complex - in 2007, 2008 – and 2009 until the AGM on June. I had the opportunity to review the detailed financial statements and general ledger for 2007 and 2008 and I found out these were a disaster! The following were pulled from the General Ledger of YCC244: General repairs and maintenance - they spent $44,300 and $17,000 was not invoices accounted for - the accountant could not provide the invoices or any explanations - where was this money spent? Landscaping & Snow Removal - they spent $19,800 – have you seen any work done around our complex in 2007 - 2008? Also No invoices or buck up for some of these expenses. Parking Garage maintenance - $15,000 – which building? Also No invoices or buck up for some of these expenses. Pool, Recreation Centre 2007 - 2008 - $10,000 – the recreation room has not been working on 2007 -2008 even though we pay $40/month for the recreation centre in 3740 Don Mills. Also No invoices or buck up for some of these expenses. Janitorial service - $37,000 – there are no janitorial services performed in any of the buildings! A monthly payment of $1,449 is made to…….a-cleaning company. Also No invoices or buck up for some of these expenses. Electrical, lighting, ventilation maintenance - $19,200 Fixed the superintendent unit $ 1,500. These changes of Property Management cost us $ 12,000. Why we have two bank accounts for the YCC244 - CIBC and HSBC and the treasure had the authority to signed cheques just for CIBC???? As we heard on the HSBC account –just Dan has the authority to signed cheques … ……-WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS ACCOUNT TO BE KEPT SEECRET? The board of directors must show the bank statements for both banks and copy of the cheques to see who have the authority to signed cheques? In the last 2 years, the Property Management Company has changed 4 times, just so the records can be erased and all blame to be directed to the Management companies, BUT ANY EXPENSES INCURRED FOR OUR CONDOMINIUM MUST BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. Some of the board of directors resigned because they did not agreed with what going on with our money and do not want to be kept responsible. Unfortunately, last year when the AGM took place I was out of Canada and could not show what I FOUND OUT on the details General Ledger of YCC244 - but I that is better late than never to tell what I found out. In accordance with the Condominium Act, every owner has the rights to see the details of all the expenses. Condos - Government of Ontario (Canada) According with Condominium Act, 1998, is designed to protect your investment, improve the day-to-day operation of your condominium and allow for new kinds of condominium developments. Condominium owners hold title to their units and share responsibility for ... that unit owners have an opportunity to review the financial statements in a... Whether you're a first-time buyer or have lived in your condo for years, the Condominium Act, 1998, is designed to protect your investment, improve the day-to-day operation of your condominium and allow for new kinds of condominium developments. http://www.gov.on.ca/MGS/en/ConsProt/STEL02_045929.html I am posting this just to make sure that the maintenance fee will be reduced and calculated right. Unit 182

Hot discussions so far (Nov 6, 2010 @ 4:30 p.m) ....

So to recap, the hot discussions so far on this blog are about:

1. Michael's resignation or dismissal and his new attempt to get (again) in the Board and eventually,if successful, and with the help of Seamus and others to attempt to overthrow Taft -- if this interpretation is wrong please post comments and refer to #1.

2. Seamus controversial attitude

3. The 22% reduction in CEA fees announced by the Board which NOBODY so far seemed to be happy about (even Seamus raised this complaint during the sub-metering info meeting, if you remember). Most owners believe a 40%-50% reduction would be closer to reality. Unfortunately, no one seems to have been able so far to explain it. If Slobodan is following the blog then he is kindly invited to come up with an explanation (different of the one he gave during the aforementioned meeting)

4.The intrusion of Taft and of the lawyer in the business that ONLY concerns the owners (i.e. the forthcoming election of the new board members and the voting of new budget).

Just to make it clear : TAFT is our employee and is supposed to do what we (actually the Board) tell them to do. And so is the law firm. The problem is that if we fire these guys (Taft and the lawyers) who the hell is going to pay for it. Of course it's again us. Is it really worth it? Or, we can make these guys work the way WE WANT (and not what some dubious board members or owners want).

If there's anything else please add your comments or post new topics.

This is the " flyer" people asked about

I got it in the mail. I'm not endorsing it, just posting it so you may come up with your comments about these 5 candidates

YCC 244 owners who sent resumes for nomination to the board of directors

In the package for this year's AGM were included 14 resumes.

Who knows about somebody how makes a good / not good candidate have
your say prior to the AGM.
Here is the list:

1.Saibei (Andy) Fang --- Unit 138
2.Michael Xie --- Unit 167
3. Michael Bolan --- Unit 129
4. Henry Lan --- Unit 128
5. Seamus (Shun Li) Kang --- Unit 116
6. Weihula Zhang --- Unit 089
7. Harry Zhou --- Unit 103
8. Steve Willerding --- Unit 015
9. Dan Hu --- Unit 068
10.Sun, Jing Guo --- Unit 057
11.Mona Xia Jiang --- Unit 047
12.Yue Hui Zhang(Annie) --- Unit 026
13.Antonia Dunaeva --- Unit 022
14.Catherine Zhong --- Unit 015

If there are ommissions please add them as comments, or copy the
whole list, add the ones you see are missing and RE-POST by emailing
the new list at ycc244.toronto@blogger.com and I suggest use the
subject line to read "THE LIST- update".

A comment to the another comment on maintenance fees.

I can see your point - you say that for the past year (2009) ALL the
units paid EACH an extra $100.00 + per month for common HYDRO expenses.
NICE CATCH!
It looks a lot more to me too. Maybe the board can explain it better.

The original comment was:
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Fw: MAINTENANCE PLEASE
SEE ATTACHED":

This is interesting.

We have a hydro bill of 600,000 nearly 50% of the common expenses, a
current board of directors who propose a 22% reduction in our fees
that
equals only 150 for me and more increases on the way.

I figure, take 600,000 hydro bill, divide it 195 units and divide that
by the 12 months and I get 256 a month.

Now I'm paying 106 for electric fees extra a month. Its for that light
bulb lighting the hallway, the light bulb outside lighting the parking
lot, the light bulb lighting the swimming pool, the light bulb
lighting
the elevator, hmmm lots of expensive light bulbs.

I wonder what we should do, lets vote the current board out, sounds
like a good idea.

Then we can figure out how many light bulbs it takes to cost 106 a
month in common expense fees!

Why are there only 3 Board Members to be elected?

November 3, 2010 8:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Why are there only 3 Board Members to be elected. Nancy was appointed
to the Board not elected 1 vacant...Dan...Nancy...and Michael.
Nancy's Position ends at the AGM and there should be 4 people to be
elected. Can anyone answer this???

Re: YCC244- Residents'Blog

Dear Owners, How about some positive comments about Taft Forward Property Management Group and our Board of Directors that are presently dedicating long hours on our behalf. Taft took over the management of YCC244 when we were at our lowest point of neglect . Our grounds were in a terrible state regardless of how you looked at it. An examples would be that we had constant dumping of discarded furniture /appliances, renovation material etc. etc. in full view to all and everyone which indeed was an unsightly mess and an embarrasment to the owners themselves as well as visitors coming here. Another example would be that raked leaves from trees in the Fall were left in paper bags till late in the Winter , uncollected , left in the snow at the curbside of DonMills Road. Grass had not been cut and general neglect was very obvious . Buildings were falling apart, balconies and roofs leaking and causing damage to property of owners units.Stairs leading up to our buildings were crumbling .etc. etc.etc. The most worrysome issue was that the value of our units was falling lower and lower. Taft Forward took over, putting in hard work , long hours and dedication and has thus far managed to build up slowly what had been destroyed because of feuding between previous Members of THE BOARD and poor choices of previous Management Companies. Please give some credit where due to the present remaining Members of the Board and Taft Forward . Repairs will get done in due time with the finances available . Be patient and be deligent yourselves in doing your part in bettering our Community. In the past, constant complaining by owners and conflicts between then Board Members and Management Companies have always resulted in terminating contracts and therefore creating tremendous loss of finances which could have been used in getting pressing repairs done.(This has happened numerous times in the 26 years that I am an owner in YCC244). Mismanagement of moneys and fraud also had been an issue in the past Unfortunately I see this situation being an issue AGAIN. In the upcoming AGM several positions are open to be filled. Please vote for applicants who don't have any personal agenda and can work together in harmony with the present Board Members and Taft Forward. As I have stated before,Taft Forward has vast knowledge of how to deal with our so very complex situation and has always been polite and courteous to all and everyone. Your concerns and requests might not have received an immediate response , but I am sure have been looked after in due time when finances and time has allowed that to be done. Good luck to all of us owners. Please be aware and vote wisely. Unit 163

YCC244 - Sprinkler water at 20 Moonstone Byway still not shut off

Justin,

 

I left messages at the office, I called and spoke with the superintendent Sunday (Jerry) to tell them the patio water is not yet shut off (at least at 20 Moonstone Byway) but they seem to not care about it.

It's going to be freezing soon, the wall pipes might brake and somebody is going to pay for damages just because these guys are ignorant.

Please call them and ask them to shut off the patio water imediately.

It's not summer anymore.

The water should be turned back on in April / May 2011 deppending on the weather conditions.

 

Unit 183

 

P.S. This is going to be posted on Residents' blog as well

 

 

 

 

Fw: MAINTENANCE PLEASE SEE ATTACHED

Attn.: ALL OWNERS We need to request to the Board of Directors to show us how they are going to calculate the new maintenance, after the sub-meters are started. According with the hydro consumption stated on the YCC244 Financial Statements for the last 2 years MAINTENANCE MUST BE REDUCE WITH - 40%, the difference of 10% will cover the common elements. If the maintenance will not be reduce with 40% we are going to pay more per month than now. As per Financial Statement the hydro Consumption was: 2007 2008 2009 Total Common Expenses $1,099,242 $1,125,629 Not received Hydro % consumption 53.54% 49.47% Not received In addition, the cost of the swimming pool is $ 40 per month for each owner – and I strongly suggest converting the swimming pool on something different and cutting the cost of the maintenance more.

YCC 244 Swimming Pool Cost

I guess Unit 182's statement correctness that the pool costs us $40/
months per unit is hard to be figured out from the financial
statements.
Maybe someone from the Board could break it down and explain how much
the cost really is (maybe Slobodan)???!!!!!.
The 2008 financial statement shows the "recreation and amenities"
overall cost was about $5000.00.
But most likely this is all EXCEPT electricity and water cost.
Could really the cost be as big as $40/month x 12 month x 195 units =
$93,600 for one calendar year for the pool and the outdated gym????!!!!
Waiting for clarification.... (Unit 183)

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An opinnion about the new maintenance fees after sub-metering kicks in

Once the unit's electricity starts beeing paid by each unit separately, then there's not too much left to be split in four ways according to unit's size.

A better approach I gues would be to differentiate the maintenance amongst units based on the number of people living in the units instaed of the unit's size as it currently is. Units with more people then other units consume more water, produce more garbage, use elevators more , etc, so they contribute more to the CEA (Common Element Area) expenses the the units with less people. 

Or at least I guess it'd  still just be more fair that the CEA maintenance be divided equaly for all the 195 units, as the only thing that really made the difference for different units was mostly the electricity bill.

 

Am I missing something that wolud still make sense for the units to pay for 4 different types (amounts) of CEA maintenance instaead of paying about the same amount each?

Highlights of sub-metering meeting from Oct 21, 2010

Questions from owners regarding YCC 244 sub-metering

1.What were the highest/lowest/average amounts in each of the three
probation months across all units?

2. What percentage of the entire YCC 244 electricity bill represents
the sum of all bills via sub metering for one month?

3.Is there any difference in the cost if electricity is used during
pick hours/Sundays /nights?

4.Is the electricity for stove and hot water tank included in the
unit bill?

5.What are the big electricity consumers left to still be billed as
common elements?

YCC 244 contact information update (August 5, 2010)

 

Handyman in our condo

These are the details of Frank our ex-superintendent who turns out to be a
skilled handyman and, if I don't make any mistake, is (still) living in our
condo (I guess not as an owner but more as a tenant).

Rats roaming on the YCC 244 patios